Hey, welcome to Job with Julie. This is Julie Slattery and I'm having coffee in Colorado Springs with Ryan and Laura Dobson. Welcome to Job with Julie. It's good to be here. Welcome. And you're Colorado Springs natives. Well, at least you've lived here for a long time. It feels like a native. Yeah. It was supposed to be 12 months. Really? We've only lived here for 12 months? 12 years, I mean, though? Oh, yeah, we only agreed to six months. Really? Wow. I'm a California native surfer. Both of us born and raised. Laura, much more surfer than me. See, I didn't know that. That's crazy. I'm an interloper in the surfing world. I enjoy it. She's good at it.

Very, very different scenario.

Yeah. I was up for a challenge and a change. I'm always up for something. That's cool. Are you missing the ocean? I miss it pretty much daily, huh? Yeah. Most of my friends know. There isn't. There's not a lot of water here in Colorado. My husband's a surfer. He grew up in South Florida.

Oh, nice.

He loves Colorado, but he really misses the water.

Yeah.

How long have you been here? A lot of water here in Colorado. My husband's a surfer. He grew up in South Florida. Oh, nice.

He loves Colorado, but he really misses the water.

Yeah. How long have you been here? We've been here now about 10 years. Okay. Yeah, I love it. I mean, it's a great place to live. I have great friends. Good place to raise a family. Yeah. I do miss the ocean, though. Yeah. We're going on tour next year, and we're doing California, Oregon, Washington.

We're going to spend next year and we're doing California, Oregon, Washington.

We're going to spend two months on the coast as much as past coast. Oh, that's cool. That's right. Very awesome. Helping marriages and parents and then getting a lot of time of water. So, Ryan, I have to tell you the first time I ever interacted with you, I'm sure you don't remember. I know you don't remember

we were at Biola at the same time

I was getting

I was getting I interacted with you, I'm sure you don't remember. I know you don't remember. We were at

Biola at the same time. I was getting, I was at Rosemeyne. It was my first year and like the whisper

was Ryan Dobson goes to school here at Biola. So I was like, oh, there's Ryan Dobson, but I don't

think I ever personally met you. Probably barefoot? I don't remember.

That would be my guess. Or ugs back then. No, no, I had one. It was hidden. Yeah. Not so many. Got to be. And then I ended up many years later working with your dad for about a year. We overlapped at Focus on the family. Oh, yeah. And, uh, okay. So when you were at Rosemede, um, the dean of Rosemead was, um, was it Bruce

Nairmore at the time?

No, but I love Bruce Nairmore.

Yeah.

Or Keith, Keith Edwards.

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