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throwing our hands up of like, I don't know, we don't know what to do.

And I was just like, yeah, I kind of hit a wall because I was talking to them about,

you know, leaving the other pod and all that stuff.

So yeah, it kind of puts me in a spot where it's like, it's not that I mind talking about

dating, but in terms of like publicly talking about it in a podcast form, I started to feel bad of like,

am I bringing other people down if I'm not in a like motivating mode

of talking about like,

ooh, try this and put it out there and do this.

Like when I myself just feel like I've hit a wall of like trying

and feeling like I'm not seeing any like levels of success, even just in terms of like being excited, you know.

Well, I think you're just keeping it real because I don't know who these people are.

I mean, and maybe there are people out there.

I don't know them.

I don't have friends like this necessarily.

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