Welcome to the bigger pockets money podcast show number 205 where we interview the on the

Mac attire and talk about reaching financial independence at an early age by taking advantage

of the limits that life throws at you. And realizing like this is all fun and good but so many

the people around me even though they have really rich beautiful lives with travel and experiences

they don't have much money and they don't have much security and do I want that going forward.

Hello, hello, hello, my name is Mindy Jensen and with me as always is my staying out of

trouble co-host Scott trend. That's right we always ask forgiveness not permission here at

bigger pockets money. Scott and I are here to make financial independence less scary, less just

for somebody else to introduce you to every money story because we truly believe that financial

freedom is attainable no matter when or where you're starting. That's right whether you want to

retire early and travel the world going to make big-time investments in assets like real estate,

start your own business or approach by from a woo woo perspective rather than a scientific formulaic

approach. We'll help you reach your financial goals and get money out of the way so you can

launch yourself towards those dreams. Okay today we are talking to Ziana Mac attire who has a really

really interesting story of creatively solving problems and she says in the episode doing whatever

I needed to do to get creative about that and this is absolutely a story of figuring out your own path

and operating within defiled rules but also kind of exploring a little bit of the gray areas

that sometimes life has. Oh yeah she created a world in which she could thrive into a large extent

and I think you're going to find it very different from a lot of money stories we've we've heard but

no less valid of an approach towards really building the life of your dreams. Yeah and I hope it's

inspiring for people to think outside the box. Okay before we get to the show let's hear a word from

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