'2034: A Novel of the Next World War'
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 15 March 2021
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Alex Vindman sat down with retired Admiral James Stavridis and Elliot Ackerman, the authors of "2034: A Novel of the Next World War." Admiral Stavridis spent more than 30 years in the U.S. Navy, rising to the rank of four-star admiral and who served as the Supreme Allied Commander at NATO. Elliot Ackerman is the author of several novels, including "Dark at the Crossing," which was a finalist for the National Book Award, and most recently, "Waiting for Eden." They discussed the objective for writing a novel on the next world war, the lessons the novel offers national security professionals and policymakers, and key points in the backstory that precipitated the march to this fictional but highly realistic portrayal of the next world war.
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| 0:22.0 | rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:29.0 | In the novel, what we seek to portray is a United States that still operates |
| 0:39.0 | with a mental image of itself as able to do effectively whatever it wants. |
| 0:47.0 | As we put in the book, driving donut holes in our neighbor's front yard by 2034, |
| 0:54.0 | which is when the novel is set, that time will be a time of danger for the United States. |
| 1:02.0 | I am Alex Femin and this is the LawFair podcast March 15, 2021. |
| 1:07.0 | I sat down with retired Admiral James Subredis and Elliott Ackerman, |
| 1:11.0 | the author of a 2034, a novel of the next World War. |
| 1:15.0 | Admiral Subredis spent more than 30 years in the US Navy, |
| 1:19.0 | rising to the rank of four star Admiral. |
| 1:21.0 | He was the Supreme Allied Commander at NATO and previously commanded the US Southern Command, |
| 1:26.0 | overseeing military operations in Latin America. |
| 1:29.0 | He holds a PhD from the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tuffs University, |
| 1:33.0 | where he recently served five years as dean. |
| 1:36.0 | Elliott Ackerman is the author of several novels, including Dark at the Crossing, |
| 1:41.0 | which was the finalist for the National Book Award, and most recently, waiting for Eden. |
| 1:46.0 | He is both a former White House fellow and a Marine and served five tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan, |
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