Hi, I'm Sarah Ellis and I'm Helen Tupper and you're listening to the Squiggly Careers podcast.

Every week we talk about a different topic to do with work and discuss practical ideas and actions that we hope will help you to find your way through our squiggly world of work.

And as you'll know, if you're a regular listener, the past few months for Sarah

and I have meant quite a lot of time working and getting ready for our TEDx talk, which is now

live and you can watch it and, you know, go to Instagram at Amazing If and you'll find that if you

haven't seen it. We would love, love to get your feedback. But I think for us, that was, A,

something we'd wanted to do for a long time, but it was also quite a good development

thing for us to really think about how do we simply craft a message? You know, you've got a very

specific time limit. You have to remember it. You want other people to remember it. And the TEDx

London women team were just amazing in helping us to craft that talk and keep us motivated and give us really,

really good feedback to make sure it was the talk that we wanted it to be. And we thought that

there was a lot of their experience and wisdom that they shared with us for that talk was actually

also really relevant to how you do presentations at work. Because obviously we're not,

you know, no one's doing

TED talks all the time and you know we don't present like that all the time but there was a lot

that we learned that we have applied like we kept coming back to making our messages simpler

I think since then and even in our writing some of the things that we've learned about how to

craft a message have influenced how we write for our book for example so what we wanted to do was share some of that wisdom with you.

Rather than us do it, we thought we'd bring the experts in. So today, you're going to hear from

Marianne Pasha, who is the director of TEDx London. And she's going to share with us her insights

and advice about how to apply some of the things that she's learned from TED to more of our day-to-day reality at work, whether it's a presentation on Zoom or at some point when we're back in a room with our colleagues.

How can we apply those insights?

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