203. How to Create Your Own Belonging with Michelle Zauner

We Can Do Hard Things

Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

Relationships, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 27 April 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Michelle Zauner on how to begin healing our mother wounds, using her sensitivity to deepen her relationships and be a rockstar, why she’s obsessed with sheetcake and winnebagos, and why she is still “afraid of her mental health.” About Michelle: MICHELLE ZAUNER is best known as a singer and guitarist who creates dreamy, shoegaze-inspired indie pop under the name Japanese Breakfast. She has won acclaim from major music outlets around the world for releases like Psychopomp and Soft Sounds from Another Planet. Her most recent album, Jubilee, earned two GRAMMY nominations for Best New Artist and Best Alternative Music Album. Her first book, Crying in H Mart, is a New York Times Best Seller. She’s currently adapting the memoir for the screen for MGM’s Orion Pictures. TW: @jbrekkie IG: @jbrekkie

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0:00.0	Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. We're going to explain to you right away why we're a
0:15.6	little extra sweaty today. And that is because our guest today is Michelle's Honor. Michelle's
0:22.8	Honor is best known as a singer and guitarist who creates dreamy shugas inspired indie pop under
0:29.5	the name Japanese breakfast. She has won a claim from major music outlets around the world for
0:35.7	releases like Psycho Pomp and Soft Sounds from another planet and her most recent album Jubilee
0:43.2	earned two Grammy nominations for best new artist and best alternative music album. Her first book
0:50.4	crying in H. Mart is the book I have given to the most people. Yeah.
0:55.3	Is one of my favorite memoirs of all time and is a New York Times bestseller. She's currently
1:01.2	adapting the memoir for the screen for MGM's Orion Pictures. Okay. Michelle's Honor,
1:06.9	I know that you're an icon and the world is obsessed with you but we have loved you for a very,
1:12.8	very long time since the beginning. Okay. We have three children. Two of them write the music
1:19.8	columns for their high school and their college and they so music is a really big deal in our
1:23.8	family and since Psycho Pomp like since the beginning our house has been full of your voice. Every
1:32.1	car ride. Yes. Wow. What an honor. And then one day we were in this little indie bookstore in
1:38.7	our town and I remember walking by a shelf and chase our oldest said that is Michelle's Honor's
1:44.0	book crying in H. Mart. And I don't know. I mean, I knew from your lyrics that this book was
1:51.1	going to be good but holy shit crying in H. Mart is so flipping beautiful. It's like your music.
2:00.8	I don't like music that's like too cheerful. It's trying to trick me that the world is not
2:06.0	shit and I don't like music that's too depressing like trying to kill me by only focusing that the
2:10.8	world is shit in your music. It invites me into the singular ache and then it like widens to
2:17.0	everybody every time it's like this alone together feeling listening to you which is the same as
2:26.1	your memory. So hi, Michelle. Thanks for being with us and for all you work. This has been a great
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