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Money Tree Investing

2025 Wrap Up... Year End Surprises

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Business, Investing

4.6733 Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

There are a lot of year end surprises in store with the 2025 wrap up. The year has come to an end and we are here to discuss everything from year-end reflections and personal anecdotes to a broad market outlook. We focused on the recent surge and volatility in precious metals, especially silver, explaining how futures-market leverage and exchange rule changes (like margin requirement hikes) are used to cool speculative excess, why parabolic price moves are unhealthy, and why investors should be cautious in the near term even if long-term fundamentals remain bullish. We also talked government fraud, rising debt costs, aging demographics, deglobalization, and higher-for-longer rates, arguing that bad asset allocation now carries real risk and diversification with assets like precious metals still matter.

We discuss... 

  • We challenge simplistic economic cause-and-effect narratives, arguing that inflation, tariffs, and monetary policy outcomes are highly contextual and often misrepresented by official government data.
  • Past periods of QE and low inflation were cited to illustrate how money printing can offset deflation rather than automatically cause inflation, reinforcing skepticism toward consensus forecasts.
  • Large-scale government fraud is pervasive, rarely punished, and structurally embedded, with the prediction that no high-level figures will face consequences in ongoing public scandals.
  • Precious metals, particularly silver, were a major focus due to extreme recent price volatility, including sharp multi-day gains and losses while most investors were disengaged over the holidays.
  • The mechanics of futures markets were explained in detail, emphasizing how leverage works, why margin requirements matter, and how exchanges can legally change rules to stabilize markets.
  • Recent increases in margin requirements for silver, gold, platinum, and palladium were highlighted as a deliberate attempt by exchanges to flush out speculative leverage and cool "animal spirits."
  • Governments and exchanges can escalate interventions dramatically if needed, including forcing cash settlement or changing delivery rules, which would materially alter market dynamics.
  • Banks' growing discomfort with holding U.S. Treasuries and their shift toward gold are a quiet but significant signal about long-term confidence in fiat systems.
  • The contrast between gold (central-bank owned) and silver (primarily investor and industrial owned) explains differing market behaviors and intervention risks.
  • The hosts argued that the era of "cheap mistakes" is over, meaning poor allocation decisions now result in permanent capital loss, not just missed opportunity.
  • AI enthusiasm should be thought of skeptically as large language models are becoming commoditized quickly, lack durable moats, and resemble past tech bubbles.
  • Be cautious, diversify, be skeptical of narratives, have respect for market structure, and prepare for a year where volatility exposes complacency.

 

Today's Panelists:

Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth
Douglas Heagren | Mergent College Advisors

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.0

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:10.0

Happy New Year, everyone.

0:12.0

Welcome to Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:15.0

My name is Kirk Chisholm.

0:16.0

I'm joined with Doug Hagrin here.

0:18.0

Hey Doug.

0:19.0

Good morning, Kirk.

0:20.0

I want to effectively celebrate today as

0:22.1

the official Welcome to New York Collectivism Day. Because we got a new regime in New York City

0:31.4

that is ready to push back on the laissez-faire society of New York and bring everybody together as one

0:39.2

cohesive marching unit, New York City. One for all and all for one. One for all for

0:48.0

whoever's in power. That's right. Exactly. It's like every other communist regime.

0:53.6

That's exactly it. Yeah. Well, good luck to you, New Yorkers. I'm glad I'm not living there. That's all I can say. I live in Massachusetts, which is so much better. We're going to be talking a lot about 2025 today. Summarize kind of what happened and talk a little bit about what we expect for for next year but hopefully everyone

1:12.1

had a happy holiday i know i did it was very relaxing did a little skiing yesterday my backyard rink

1:18.5

is about 24 hours away from being able to skate on it although the the quality of the top ice

1:24.0

is not great because of the wind and the hail and all the weird

1:27.5

going on in the last week. But I'm resilient and I'm going to go for it.

1:32.0

Wait, you haven't bought yourself a residential Zamboni yet to get that nice top?

1:37.4

I just bought the house dog one thing at a time. I just got to pay for this damn thing,

1:42.7

you know? I don't have time for Zamboni. No, in all seriousness, my backyard needs a lot of work. I was just lucky to get one up this year. So we're going to be doing it next year. By the way, let me add that in. For those of you that are sitting there, we talk about rent versus housing. There you go. You bought the house. The backyard needs a lot of work housing the gift that

2:03.3

keeps on taking yeah i mean well we'll definitely be talking about that in subsequent weeks here

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