Matt Gates crashed and burned very quickly, but now we have...

Delighting everyone who knew him.

Oh, indeed.

Have you gotten your cameo from Matt yet?

I'm not giving that man money.

I know what I'm getting you for Christmas.

Your task will not be an easy one.

Your enemy is well-tra well equipped, and battle hard.

There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America.

Good night. And good luck.

All right, folks, welcome back to the Lincoln Project podcast. I'm your host, as always, Rick

Wilson. I am joined by my good friend today, Molly Jong Fas. She's my good friend every day. But welcome to the show, Molly. I wanted

to catch up with you a little bit and talk to you about an article you wrote about what you got

wrong in 2024. And because we were talking about that a little bit yesterday.

And I wanted to expand on that a little bit because I really recommend it.

We'll put it in the show notes.

But talk to me a little bit about what you think, beyond what you got wrong?

What did the country get wrong about this election?

What do we need to rethink as a country about this election? Okay. So I want to actually have this election. What do we need to rethink as a country about this election?

Okay, so I want to actually have this conversation. First of all, I continue to be sort of shocked

that not more people have written. When I wrote this, I was like, oh, yes, I'm writing this,

but a lot of other people will write pieces like this because we all got so much wrong that there will definitely be a sort of come to Jesus moment here.

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