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My name's Andrew Spade.

I'm joined again by Jake Burns.

Jake, how's it going, buddy?

Andrew, we're good, ready to talk about, like, I feel like we've been kind of, as the NFL

winds down, we don't want to get too far into, like, looking ahead when the Super Bowl's still

lingering there, but now with the Super Bowl accomplished and all of the coverage of that, I feel like we're in a good place to look back and look forward sort

of simultaneously. And I think we've got a good plan. So I'm excited to start thinking about the

2025 NFL season, which we will do for the next six months and it'll be nauseating in like

four months when the summer hits.

But there's a lot of interesting opportunity here that I think is, it's going to be fascinating to see what the Browns do.

There's certainly a lot of room to maneuver here.

I'm not necessarily talking about cap space,

but I think more just in terms of how they want to attack this, right?

Like what the process should be and where they're trying to get to for 2025,

I think are all interesting questions that don't necessarily have one answer. I think we knew

with a certainty, Jake, going back, really the entire time that Andrew Barry has been here,

there's been a clear path, a directive of just push forward, push forward. And it might be

that he considers that the goal still, even with everything that's happened and the Miles

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