201: Reparative Therapy Part 2 - The therapy process in conjunction with church discipline.

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 10 October 2010

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

In this 3-part series Natasha Helfer Parker, LCMFT (The Mormon Therapist and MormonMatters.org), interviews one of her earliest clients: a married, Mormon homosexual man, coming out to his wife. Names have been withheld to protect anonymity to the family. Note: The purpose of this interview is not to encourage people to stay or leave the church, to stay or leave a marriage, nor to participate or not participate in reparative therapy. These are all delicate personal decisions and different circumstances will necessitate different solutions. The purpose of this interview is to share a story. It is also meant to increase empathy and to reach out to those who may find themselves in similar situations.

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0:14.0	So then we get to the point where yeah you come and start seeing me and you came both individually and we also had sessions with your ex-wife as well.
0:26.0	We had marital and individual sessions that we were working and I believe and I'd like to hear your perspective on this because this was 10 years ago.
0:35.0	I think 11 years ago that this happened.
0:39.0	I believe and I hope that I was very upfront with you that this was not an area of expertise for me.
0:47.0	Yes.
0:50.0	And that I would be more than willing to work with you guys as long as you understood that and as long as you understood that we were kind of going on a quest together.
1:00.0	To see what and the heck is out there and what can we do about this and are there you know remedies or treatments or whatever.
1:09.0	Because of course my training did not cover anything along the lines of reparative therapy which is what they call therapy which tries to change the homosexual what drive or I guess template sexual arousal template to one that is heterosexual.
1:28.0	So I had not had any training in that in my professional training and I also knew that many therapists and much of the psychology field feels that this is even an ethical practice to try to do this.
1:41.0	Yes.
1:42.0	So I believe I was very upfront about all that.
1:44.0	Absolutely.
1:45.0	And we kind of went from there.
1:48.0	Yes and I have to tell you and I have to tell you audience that you were the best.
1:57.0	Oh, that's your very kind.
2:00.0	I was very inexperienced at that time, I believe.
2:03.0	Yes, you were inexperienced but you treat us with dignity and you you gave us you gave us the tools that we needed to do what we needed to do.
2:19.0	I think that I remember that when I remember that your husband was transferred from the town that we used to live in and you moved and we had to look for another therapist and we didn't find another one.
2:40.0	And I was still married to my wife back then and then I remember that we would go for walks and she knew that something was wrong with me and she would ask me, do you think that what do you think is our future?
3:00.0	Do you think that we're going to last? Do you think that we're going to be?
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