What's up everybody? This is Cortland from AndyHackers.com and you're listening to the

NDHackers podcast. More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a lot of money

in the process. And on this show, I sit down with these indie hackers to discuss the ideas,

the opportunities and the strategies they're taking advantage of. So the rest of us can do the same. All right. I'm here with Ben Orenstein, one of the co-founders of Tupil. Ben, how's it going? Dude, it's going great. It's great to be back on the pod. It's great to have you back. It's been a year and a half, two years.

I wanted to have you on last year and then I don't know what happened.

A few small things like a global pandemic. be back on the pod. It's great to have you back. It's been a year and a half, two years. I wanted to have you on last year and then I don't know what happened.

A few small things like a global pandemic, you know, things of that nature. But now you're back. And I want to get people sort of a catch up as to who you are since it's been a year and a half. And maybe the best way to do this is to sort of retell the store you have on your website.

I'm going to try telling it. You tell me what to get wrong.

Way back in the day, there's this app Screen Screen Hero and you could use it to call somebody and share your screen with them and it was super good. It was fast, it was reliable, it was high quality, everybody loved it and in fact it was so good that programmers would use it to collaborate and write code together and a pair. And then the unthinkable happened, Slackbot screen hero,

and shut it down. So this amazing thing that existed in the world suddenly ceased to exist. And that's

where you came and Ben. You were looking for a startup idea and you ended up making a modern,

sleek screen hero replacement called Tuple. And so I think you were last on the pod and late 2019. You

hadn't even launched yet, but you've done a bunch of pre-sales, you have beta customers. You're

doing something like $20,000 a month in revenue. That was a little bit over a year and a half ago.

Since then, we've had a global pandemic. Remote work has become kind of like the new norm.

Where are you at now in terms of like two bulls progress?

Yeah. We're like millions of dollars a year. COVID was crazy for us. Like the business more

or less quadrupled in a month or two starting in March of 2020. And the next couple months

were crazy too. And basically since then, they're not quite as crazy, but they're like our growth rate is 3x what it used to be. So it's nuts. It's been good for us for sure. And how big is your team now? Because it was just three of you in total when I talk to you. Yeah. So I have two co-founders. So it's just the three of us last time. Now we are five full timers and three part timers. So I take it you're probably profitable

unless you're paying everybody a very, very good salary. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, definitely

profitable. Cool. Well, that's awesome, man. Congratulations. I've talked to a few people recently

who just had their businesses explode in the last year. And it's like COVID seems to play a role in all of them.

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