(2008/08/31) ..."Oh, he's drunk. How would he know where we're going?" (MP3)
Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy
Jay Tomlinson
4.5 • 3.4K Ratings
🗓️ 31 August 2008
⏱️ 74 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the best of a left podcast with clips today from the young turtles, democracy |
| 0:13.4 | now, counter spin, ring of fire, and the Tom Hartman show. |
| 0:18.5 | Be sure to stick around at the very end of the show for a huge announcement I've got for |
| 0:22.5 | you. |
| 0:23.5 | I didn't want to start with torture and I just think this is tremendous news and of |
| 0:37.8 | course I'm afraid that your people are going to gloss over it as usual. |
| 0:41.8 | We found out the manual that we were using Guantanamo Bay and then eventually in Iraq |
| 0:46.6 | in Abu Ghraib and Afghanistan that led to all the detainee abuse otherwise known as torture. |
| 0:53.7 | And it is a 1957 document and it is turns out we have found original source for it. |
| 1:02.4 | We thought it was from SER which is our survival evasion, resistance, and escape that we teach |
| 1:09.4 | our own soldiers in case they get captured and they're going to get tortured. |
| 1:13.8 | Well that is true but it turns out it comes from somewhere else to SER where it comes |
| 1:20.2 | from is a Chinese Communist manual on how to torture people. |
| 1:25.9 | And we got this in 1957 and turned it into a document on how to survive Chinese torture. |
| 1:35.6 | So we forgot its original origins and we didn't went down to Guantanamo. |
| 1:39.8 | In fact they took the exact document. |
| 1:42.6 | They removed the title which was basically Chinese torture system and they taught it to |
| 1:49.8 | the interrogators, to the American interrogators down in Guantanamo Bay and then it spread |
| 1:54.2 | like I said to Iraq and Afghanistan. |
| 1:57.4 | We have been torturing people with the ways that we were trying to avoid in the first |
| 2:03.1 | place from the Communist Chinese, the way that they were torturing people. |
| 2:09.1 | And get a load of this, this is a very, very important twist to it. |
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