This is Jocco Podcast number 200 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink. Good evening,

welcome. Good evening.

In the morning after my swim, I sit down and have a cup of coffee and think,

Jim, you're the luckiest guy in the world. And that is a quote from a man named

James Surzley, a man who served his country as a soldier in the US Army. So he

volunteered for the Army and then volunteered to go fight in Vietnam, a man

who made incredible sacrifices and who faced incredible challenges.

Challenges that would overwhelm most people. And yet he carried on and he proved

and is still proving that the human will is stronger than many of us ever

realize. And that if you have the right attitude, you can look at a

harrowing situation and still call it lucky. And it is an honor to have this man

with us tonight to talk about his experiences and how he has overcome so much

adversity. Mr. James Surzley, welcome to the show. Thank you. Great to be here,

Jocco. Sir, honor to have you on. And I apologize that the fact that you had to

travel all the way out here from sunny Florida to sunny San Diego, but I'm

honored that you were able to make the trip. I'm honored to be here. Again,

thanks for asking. And I like to start at the beginning about, you know, just

where you came from, where you grew up. And I think we're talking about Minnesota,

right? We are. You somehow you cover up that accent pretty well. Well, I've

been living in Florida since 1971, so I hope I get rid of some of that. So you grew

up, what kind of what was the family situation growing up? What'd your dad do

and whatnot? My dad was a barber in Rochester, Minnesota. And my mother for the

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