So I don't believe in more money more problems, but I do believe in new levels new devils like

Like we have to be willing to do the work required work required is not working hard

It's not working smart necessarily. It's like, you know it's the work required when you have the thing that you're seeking.

And if you can't shed the shame, you really can't work towards solutions.

She normalized the fact that like messing up with money did not make me a bad person.

This is the secret lives of black women. I'm Charlotte and I'm Lauren. And today we're talking about money.

Money very important conversation to have. I feel like money is such a common thing that I don't

actually feel comfortable talking about a lot. I've gotten much more

comfortable talking about it only because I feel like not I didn't know how much I didn't know and now that I know way

more I'm like oh we need to talk about it.

I'm just like I want to talk about it with everybody all the time.

I don't know I feel like it's still such a thing that I feel like is very like

private for me as I'm like figuring out and figuring out like the tools to like manage it so it's really I'm excited to actually have a conversation

about it today I'm excited too and I feel like this like keeping it private is what

makes it what makes everyone feel so ashamed about it and like they can't talk about

it because it's such a secret thing here and our culture here is consume and don't

save and don't talk about money and spend

conspicuously and put your show your money on your clothes and like in your purse

but like nobody really knows what you have in your bank account or that you have tons of debt and that you have a crap credit score.

So I'm just like this is an emergency conversation.

We need to talk about it ASAP.

It's urgent and we have the best person here to have this conversation with.

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