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This is CBSI in the world. I'm with Stephen Moss. I'm John Batchel. His new book is 10 birds that changed the world. First, the snowy equit. A beautiful bird to look at photographs. The plumage

wars. This had to do with fashion, maybe from Marie Antoinette, but certainly

by the 19th century in Europe and in America. Ladies hat. Stephen, there's a part of the story

that's hard to tell about the abuse of birds with beautiful plumes like the snowy eagrin.

We've changed, Stephen.

There's no toleration for this kind of cruelty today.

I hope not.

I mean, people still shoot birds, certainly in Europe and America, you know,

but what happened here was, as you say,

this was driven by, I suppose, what you'd call posh rich women in New York in Paris in London.

They wanted to outdo their friends and they did so first by wearing ostrich feathers, which

were farmed so that was less of a problem, but then from feathers of wild birds.

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