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So we're joined here again by Wild Bill Holbert and we're going to continue our conversation that we had a couple of weeks ago.

And yeah, man, so I do remember you said you wanted to share some stories from the original prison you were at.

When I got to prison, actually, I actually got to the prison where I am now at first. I was here for almost a year.

I came into the prison.

I was in like the special judicial holding facility for about a month while they were interrogating me and making a general pariah out of me,

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