2. In Your Mind’s Eye

The Unforgotten

Free Range Productions

Texas, True Crime, Journalism

4.6 • 961 Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Police use an odd and controversial investigative tool to try to identify the passenger in the VW Bug.

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0:00.0	Can you describe to me what it's like to be the person who's being hypnotized or like...
0:07.8	What's it like to be hypnotized?
0:09.2	Yeah, what's it like?
0:10.2	You want to get hypnotized in two minutes?
0:12.8	Sure.
0:13.8	Do you?
0:14.6	Yeah.
0:15.6	I'm not going to do it unless you want to.
0:16.3	I do want to. Yeah.
0:17.3	Okay. All right.
0:18.3	You're listening to a conversation I had recently with Marks Howell, a former detective with the Texas
0:24.4	Department of Public Safety.
0:26.4	He actually helped develop the hypnosis policy that the state police used for decades.
0:31.3	He started using hypnosis and investigations back in 1979.
0:35.9	He's now 87 years old and semi-retired.
0:39.2	He met me at a public library to talk about investigative hypnosis.
0:43.4	It's a part of the story about Charles Flores' death row case that gets a lot of attention.
0:48.7	People like the prosecution and Farmers Branch PD say it maybe gets too much attention.
0:53.6	But it is part of the story, and I wanted to make sure I understood how it works.
0:59.3	So we can do this, and you can come around here because you don't think you look silly.
1:04.7	Well, I don't have much shame, I'm going to be honest.
1:07.7	Sit tight.
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