This is John Batchelor, conversation with colleague Cliff May, the founder and president of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, about the Gaza War.

What to watch for.

The word hoodna.

Cliff explains it here, hoodna, the word that the Hamas and sympathizer to Hamas are using now.

Hoodna, not peace, hoodna, what does it mean now?

What does it mean in future?

Cliff May, on the not yet completed, but observed and in train, ceasefire in the Gaza conflict.

More of this tonight.

I think a lot of people do.

And what we should realize is a ceaseful.

We'll have, I think, we hope, with the release of the hostages first,

and President Trump was right to do it this way,

we will have a cessation of hostilities.

If we call it peace, that's fine, but that's not what, you know what Hamas will call it?

The word they will use, the word they are using, is Huddna.

What's Houdna?

Huddna is a truce.

Again, theologically determined there can be truces in the jihad

because sometimes the forces of Islam, as they see it,

need to rebuild, need to regroup, need to rearm,

need to prepare for the battles ahead.

This in Hamas's mind is a hudna, a truce.

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