I'm Brett and I'm Alice and we are the prosecutors.

Welcome to the first substantive episode of The Prosecutors and today we're talking about the mysterious death of a Lisa Land.

Hello everybody it's Brett and I'm joined as always with my wonderful co-host Alice. Hey everybody it's Alice. Brett it's so good to talk to you. I haven't seen another human in a long time.

I know this isolation. Another human outside of my family. They're humans too. They are humans too.

So you may have noticed a slight difference in sound quality today from the first episode and that's because in between the first episode and this episode our state issued a stay at home order and because we're law abiding citizens and because we're prosecutors in particular.

We are abiding by that order so Alice is recording from a remote location in her closet. It's very remote and how appropriate this is the most alone I've been from my family.

Yes how is that with the newborn and the toddler? Oh super easy. My children are angels and it's super easy to work and record a podcast with two kids to an under.

Just kidding it's a lord of the flies over here. You may recall our rule that everybody lies that includes podcasting has. Well I you know I was on the keto diet for a while there and lost a much of weight. I have now regained all that now I'm on the Oreo diet. I have my bag of Doritos and cheeses so you know we come out of quarantine it'll be an interesting time.

I'll trade you your Oreos for we have some black beans. Oh you know I don't want to have to turn you down on that one. That's a bummer.

So everybody we you know we talked a lot about what episode we wanted to do first on the podcast and we went through a couple different options but we settled on a lease of land.

It's a case that I think probably everybody who's listening to this is familiar with and we had several reasons for picking this one and I so don't want to save that discussion for the conclusion of this episode or the next episode whenever we finish telling the story but I will say I think that the case of a lease of lamb has a lot of the factors that both make true crime an interesting thing.

But also some cautionary elements about how we treat these cases and how we treat the people who were involved in them with that we'll jump in.

So for those of you who don't know who a lease of lamb is a lease of lamb was a young lady from Canada Chinese descent who disappeared mysteriously in early 2013 and her body was later found even under.

More mysterious circumstances so to give you some of that background it's early 2013 it's January and a lease of lamb has decided to take a trip down the west coast from her home in Vancouver where she is studying at the University of British Columbia and she takes an amtrak train from San Diego she's going to Santa Cruz she's going around the west coast and she stops in Los Angeles.

I just want to take a pause here and say that I once took an amtrak train from Washington DC all the way to my home which was 16 hours away and it was not as luxurious as one might think.

Bro who what kind of people are on those really long and track train rides I've never been on such a long one.

You know it's it's a cross section of America really I was I don't know what I was imagining I think I was imagining something out of a movie and it wasn't that at all I was just sitting in a regular seat I guess I was supposed to be there for 16 hours and the gentleman sitting next to me was a very nice man but he had been a cross country trucker and he tells me towards the beginning that as a cross country trucker he had learned to never fall asleep.

While in a moving vehicle so he's like so I'm going to be away con I signed it up just going to the dining car and hanging out in the dining car until the the internet went off which wasn't very long.

It was it was an opening experience I will say that you know everybody loves trains so why would someone choose to take a 16 hour train instead of flying or even driving.

So I was doing this well I was doing this over Thanksgiving and it was a lot cheaper to take a train than the fly but I also had these sort of romantic notions of what it was going to be like to be on a train that I was going to meet all these fascinating and interesting people you know some mysterious young woman on the train with me and fall in love or something that's not what happened.

But I can imagine why a lease in the lamb would decide to take this amtrak train trip down the west coast because it probably did seem exciting and she was doing it a little differently she was stopping at all these different places and she was very close to her family so she was checking in with her family the whole time they weren't overly excited about her doing this but she was 21 years old she's young woman striking out on her own and she ends up in Los Angeles and when she does she checks.

And to a Los Angeles hotel called the Cecil the Cecil is I mean infamous is a strong word but I think you can use it here the Cecil has its own Wikipedia entry for list of death and violence at the Cecil hotel and I'll just go through some of them Elizabeth short who's the black Dahlia is rumored to have spent some time in the bar there that's highly disputed.

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