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offer ends December 3rd, 2023. Open to UK and N.I. Guardian. I'm John Bachelor with Peter Francopan. He's a professor of global history and his new book is exactly that.

Global history over several tens of thousands of years but right now we're

after 2200 BC the rise of cities that leave records law recordsodes records,

Relationships then are suggestive.

Professor, this is trade.

This is globalization.

Do I over read it? No, I think some of my colleagues will get get very

over-excited about the word globalization because it clearly means something in the

modern world that is different to the past. In the past connecting the Americas to

each other and also to the other great continents of the world is obviously a

different story, but one can talk about long-range connections linking Europe, Africa and Asia going back thousands of years.

And I think that if one is willing to be relatively generous with the idea about what

globalization means in terms of exchange, We can chart that through the exchange

of goods, we can change that through the exchange of ideas, which a little bit more tricky

to always pin how they're moving and how they're being spread. We can also

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