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Slack during the 21st century. Bridge, you make it very clear that the US government must

provide security, freedom and prosperity. And in doing that, they construct a coalition

in Asia or around the world against the Hegemon or the potential Hegemon of China. So in

constructing that is it appropriate for the US to have other filters for other countries

in the coalition, must those other countries be secure, free and prosperous? Must they

be democracies?

No, actually not at all. I mean, I think the goal of policy is to promote Americans'

security, freedom and prosperity. And that may require affiliating with countries that

are not themselves, Republican systems like ours. I mean, obviously, I think we all wish

for other countries to be governed in a civilized and liberal and Republican way. But that's

not the goal of American foreign policy. And I really try to root my argument, one of

the things that I've been very frustrated by over the last generation, I would say, is

that American foreign policy discussion has become very attenuated in its connection to

concrete American interests. I mean, we're talking here about a war with another super power,

the most powerful state to emerge in the international system, to the United States itself, a war

with, should be apocalyptic. And my own instincts are ten towards the non-interventionists. I

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