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2/8: Red Memory: The Afterlives of China's Cultural Revolution Hardcover – May 9, 2023 by Tania Branigan (Author)

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🗓️ 2 September 2023

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2/8: Red Memory: The Afterlives of China's Cultural Revolution Hardcover – May 9, 2023 by Tania Branigan (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Memory-Afterlives-Cultural-Revolution/dp/1324051957

Red Memory uncovers forty years of silence through the stories of individuals who lived through the madness. Deftly exploring how this era defined a generation and continues to impact China today, Branigan asks: What happens to a society when you can no longer trust those closest to you? What happens to the present when the past is buried, exploited, or redrawn? And how do you live with yourself when the worst is over?

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0:00.0

I'm John Datsu, a Tanya Bronigan. Her new book is Red Memory, the afterlife of China's

0:09.1

culture revolution. It is August 1966. We're at the Beijing Normal University's attached

0:16.9

girl school. This is a girl school, young girls, for the elite of the party, the elite

0:22.2

of Beijing. There is a vice principal, a teacher, Bian. She is murdered over the next several

0:29.7

days. We're introduced to her not in person, but through the memory of her husband, Wang

0:37.0

Jing Yao. Tanya, Wang has assembled a memory of those events, and he was taking photographs

0:45.6

at the time, and he keeps them all these years later. What is it that he hopes someday

0:52.6

those photographs and those memories will achieve? Very much like Pan Qian, he really felt

1:00.2

that the events of the cultural revolution, and particularly the victims of the cultural

1:04.9

revolution, had to be remembered, had to be commemorated, had to be mourned. Because

1:12.0

of course, when his wife first died, even to mourn her, would have been a dangerous

1:17.1

act, and so although he created a sort of shrine to her in their home for him and the

1:22.8

children to remember her by, it was one that they had to hide for many years. So that

1:28.7

very act of love, of loyalty, of mourning in itself was dangerous at that time, but he

1:34.3

really believed, he took the risk of keeping, for example, the clothes that she had been

1:39.1

wearing, of taking pictures of her murdered body to show the brutality that had been

1:45.0

meted out to her by school pupils, her own pupils, keeping the bloodstreams close,

1:50.7

she'd been wearing, keeping the hideous caricatures and the angry, what were known as big character

1:56.7

posters, posters denouncing her that had been put up around their home. He kept all of

2:01.4

this secretly because he wanted people to know what had happened. And I think like

2:07.3

many people, he felt not only that it was about doing his wife's justice, about doing

2:11.9

victims' justice, but about remembering that time so that it didn't happen again.

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