2/8: How will the 22nd Century judge the 17th to 21st centuries abuse of the North American animal kingdom? 2/8: Wild New World: The Epic Story of Animals and People in America Kindle Edition by Dan Flores (Author)
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2/8: How will the 22nd Century judge the 17th to 21st centuries abuse of the North American animal kingdom? 2/8: Wild New World: The Epic Story of Animals and People in America Kindle Edition by Dan Flores (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/Wild-New-World-Animals-America-ebook/dp/B09TQ2TMN2
Distinguished author Dan Flores’s ambitious history chronicles the epoch in which humans and animals have coexisted in the “wild new world” of North America—a place shaped both by its own grand evolutionary forces and by momentous arrivals from Asia, Africa, and Europe. With portraits of iconic creatures such as mammoths, horses, wolves, and bison, Floresdescribes the evolution and historical ecology of North America like never before.
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS I In The World. I'm John Boucher with Dan Flores, his new book is Wild New World, |
| 0:07.5 | the epic story of animals and people in America. The clovus culture, so-called because of |
| 0:14.5 | where it was identified that tools were suggestive of a developing culture, is important |
| 0:21.0 | first to establish where the sites are and Dan's book wonderfully gives us a map of |
| 0:26.5 | what's been found so far. They're mortified. And these are between around 13,000 years ago. |
| 0:32.7 | They're speculation that human beings, as we, the modern, modern human beings, were here |
| 0:38.7 | before them, but it's important to establish why clovus matters. Dan, it's the tools, |
| 0:44.6 | it's the hunting skills, it's the remains of the sites. Is that why we key on that 13,000 years ago? |
| 0:51.9 | Now, it really is all those things you mentioned. As you referred to, we do believe or |
| 1:04.4 | pretty convinced, in fact, by a set of footprints found in southern New Mexico just four or five |
| 1:09.6 | years ago, that people did get here even before the glacial maximum 23,000 years ago, |
| 1:18.8 | but it looks as if their populations were really small. And one of the reasons we think that is |
| 1:26.2 | because when the clovus migration happens, and it happens when the ice sheets in North America |
| 1:33.0 | opens sufficiently to allow an overland migration out of Siberia into what is now |
| 1:40.2 | Canada and the lower 48 states of the US, when that happens, this migration takes place with |
| 1:47.0 | such a rapidity that it implies that there's not really anyone in the way of us. There's not really |
| 1:54.1 | anyone that's flowing down this clovus movement from all the way from Alaska to the tip of Tierra |
| 2:00.7 | del Fuego, which happens in a space of time of probably only three centuries. So in what is now |
| 2:07.9 | the United States and Alaska and Canada, this clovus culture is the first human culture that spreads |
| 2:16.3 | coast to coast in America. It's present for more than three centuries, longer than the United States |
| 2:24.4 | has existed, for example, and it exerts a profound influence on the place to see the world that these |
| 2:31.8 | people find. In effect, at the end of their three centuries, North America has changed drastically |
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