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2/4: Wild New World: The Epic Story of Animals and People in America Kindle Edition by Dan Flores (Author)

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2/4: Wild New World: The Epic Story of Animals and People in America Kindle Edition by Dan Flores (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Wild-New-World-Animals-America-ebook/dp/B09TQ2TMN2

In 1908, near Folsom, New Mexico, a cowboy discovered the remains of a herd of extinct giant bison. By examining flint points embedded in the bones, archeologists later determined that a band of humans had killed and butchered the animals 12,450 years ago. This discovery vastly expanded America’s known human history but also revealed the long-standing danger Homo sapiens presented to the continent’s evolutionary richness.



Distinguished author Dan Flores’s ambitious history chronicles the epoch in which humans and animals have coexisted in the “wild new world” of North America—a place shaped both by its own grand evolutionary forces and by momentous arrivals from Asia, Africa, and Europe. With portraits of iconic creatures such as mammoths, horses, wolves, and bison, Flores describes the evolution and historical ecology of North America like never before.

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So far, they're more defined. And these are between around 13,000 years ago. They're

1:02.9

speculation that human beings, as we, the modern human beings, were here before them.

1:09.5

But it's important to establish why cloverous matters. Then it's the tools, it's the hunting

1:15.3

skills, it's the remains of the sites. Is that why we key on that 13,000 years ago?

1:22.5

Now, it really is all those things you mentioned. As you referred to, we do believe we're

1:33.8

pretty convinced, in fact, by a set of footprints found in Southern New Mexico just four or

1:38.9

five years ago that people did get here even before the glacial maximum 23,000 years

1:47.1

ago. But it looks as if their populations were really small. And one of the reasons we

1:54.9

think that is because when the cloverous migration happens, and it happens when the ice sheets

2:01.5

in North America opens sufficiently to allow an overland migration out of Siberia into

2:08.0

what is now Canada and the lower 48 states of the US, when that happens, this migration

2:15.5

takes place with such a rapidity that it implies that there's not really anyone in the way

2:22.0

of us. There's not really anyone that's slowing down this cloverous movement from, all the

2:28.0

way from Alaska to the tip of Tirilfuego, which happens in a space of time of probably

2:33.9

only three centuries. So in what is now the United States and Alaska and Canada, this

2:41.3

cloverous culture is the first human culture that spreads coast to coasts in America.

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