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2/4: Lost Son: An American Family Trapped Inside the FBI's Secret Wars by Brett Forrest (Author)

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🗓️ 5 July 2023

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2/4: Lost Son: An American Family Trapped Inside the FBI's Secret Wars by Brett Forrest (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Son-American-Family-Trapped/dp/0316591610/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
When Billy Reilly vanished, his parents embarked on a desperate search for answers. Was their son’s disappearance connected to his mysterious work for the FBI, or was it a personal quest gone wrong? Only when Wall Street Journal reporter Brett Forrest embarks on his own investigation does a picture emerge: of the FBI's exploitation of US citizens through a secretive intelligence program, a young man's lust for adventure within the world's conflicts, and the costs of a rising clash between Moscow and Washington.

Sept. 11th roused Billy Reilly's curiosity for religions, war, and the world and its people beyond his small town near Detroit. Online, Billy taught himself Arabic and Russian. His passions led him into jihadi Internet forums, attracting the interest of the FBI.

An amateur drawn into professional intelligence, Billy became a Confidential Human Source, one of thousands of civilians who assist FBI agents with investigative work, often at great hazard and with little recourse. When Russia stirred rebellion in Ukraine, Billy set out to make his mark.

In Russia, Billy's communications dropped. His parents, frantic, asked the FBI for help but struggled to find answers. Grasping for clues, the Reilly family turned to Brett Forrest. Commencing a quest of his own, Forrest applied years' worth of research, along with decades of extensive experience in Russia, illuminating the inner workings of the national-security machine that enmeshed Billy and his family, picking up the lost son's trail.

A masterwork of reporting, composed like a thriller, blending political maneuvering and international espionage, Lost Son illustrates one man's coming of age amid new global dangers.

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This is CBS High on the World. I'm John Batsu with the Distinguished Correspondent for

0:09.4

the Wall Street Journal, Brett Forest, who has a new book that tells a story of many

0:14.0

years lost son, an American family trapped inside the FBI's Secret Wars. In May of 2015,

0:22.6

Billy gets on the aircraft, continues on his way to Moscow. In December of 17, Brett

0:29.4

has at the Washington offices of the Wall Street Journal and he gets a call from Bob

0:34.2

Forestman. What is the nature of the call and what do you do about it, Brett? Thank you.

0:38.8

Certainly, John. Bob, I'd known for a little while, he is an American guy who had been living

0:46.0

and working in Russia and Ukraine since the 90s, working in the financial sector. He

0:52.3

had developed a lot of very interesting and valuable relationships in business, obviously,

0:58.0

but also in power structure in both countries and in the Russian Orthodox Church, Bob's

1:05.0

a very religious guy. I had been meeting talking about various events in Eastern Europe

1:14.5

for, you know, off and on for a little while. Until one day, he told me we were sitting

1:19.0

at a cafe outside the Ice Cating Area, at Rock and Pellar Center. He told me that he

1:25.2

had something that he wanted to give me, but it wasn't quite the right time. As you can

1:29.8

imagine, as a journalist, as a reporter every time you hear something like that, he said,

1:33.6

well, I need to know what is it. Anyhow, eventually, some weeks later, I was sitting at my

1:41.4

desk in Washington Bureau of the Journal and Bob called and he said, now is the time I'm

1:46.3

ready to tell you. And this is what he told me. He knew very little of the Riley case,

1:49.7

but he said there was a young man from Michigan who had worked for the FBI for a number of

1:54.1

years in counterterrorism and had traveled to Russia and disappeared there. And shortly

1:59.3

after his disappearance, Billy's FBI handlers visited the family's house, the Riley's house,

2:05.9

and outside of Detroit. Profest ignorance of Billy's trip to Russia began confiscating

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