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Doing well. Good. Happy to have you back on the show.

Listen, I don't think I've read anything by you on this subject yet, but I know you went to

Munich to the big security conference and I know I read some really bad things about it.

So I'm interested in what you witnessed and what notes you took and what articles you might be working on

to let us know because, well, some of the things that I've read coming back from

there certainly are interesting and some of them quite concerning so what

are your highlights man? What happened? Yeah, you know, I need to take a little bit of time to sort of synthesize some information in the aftermath of that's conference because

hmm how to put it well it was similar to my experience of attending the NATO summit which I think we might have talked about a bit last year in

that there's really nobody that I could see anyway who seems to be at these gatherings who sort of has even the remotestest inclination to question or even be mildly skeptical or critical of the underlying premises of the organization, right, or the overriding sort of goals of the organization

or the sort of ideological sort of nature of the organization itself.

That sounds a little vague, but I guess what I was trying to say is there's

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