2/24/23 Jonathan Ofir on the Israeli Elites Warning of Apartheid

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Scott Horton

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4.8 • 902 Ratings

🗓️ 1 March 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Scott interviews Jonathan Ofir about a recent article he wrote at Mondoweiss. The article highlights the latest mainstream Israeli voice, a journalist named Ben-Yishai, to voice concerns that the current Israeli government may institute apartheid. Scott and Ofir talk about how hardliners gaining government positions has caused Ben-Yishai and other establishment Israelis to warn about the possible implementation of the so-called “Decisive Plan” authored by Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich in 2017. They go over what the plan is and examine its broader historical context. Discussed on the show: “Another mainstream Israeli voice warns of Apartheid” (Mondoweiss) “No, Israel Does Not Have the Right to Self-Defense In International Law Against Occupied Palestinian Territory” (Jadaliyya) “Top PM Aide: Gaza Plan Aims to Freeze the Peace Process” (Haaretz) Haaretz article about the 2001 Netanyahu video Jonathan Ofir is an Israeli-Danish conductor, musician, writer and blogger, writing regularly for Mondoweiss. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:57.0	And this one says, another mainstream Israeli voice warns of apartheid.
1:02.0	The Israeli finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, published a shocking plan.
1:08.9	Oh, wait, that's a separate issue.
1:10.9	Uh, Ron Ben Yeshai, finally. that's a separate issue.
1:12.6	Ron Ben Yeshai finally recognizes the danger.
1:17.2	Welcome to the show, Jonathan, how are you doing?
1:20.2	Oh, thanks, Scott.
1:21.4	I'm doing very well. Thanks for inviting me. Very happy to have you here. So, listen, this is such an important and controversial topic and point to make about whether Israel is an apartheid state and you know if you say that
1:36.2	on Twitter sometimes people get really mad and say what in the world are you
1:39.8	talking about so I guess let's start with that Jonathan Offier. Why would anyone much
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