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2/2:: #Ukraine: Simon Kuper of FT.com asks what a Russian victory means for Ukraine, for Europe, for NATO? Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute.

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🗓️ 22 December 2023

⏱️ 7 minutes

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2/2:: #Ukraine: Simon Kuper of FT.com asks what a Russian victory means for Ukraine, for Europe, for NATO? Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute.

https://on.ft.com/3NAyIim

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at years end in the third winter of war imminent in Europe. There is also a war in the Middle East, there's also a

0:44.8

threatened war in Asia. However, Simon Cooper of the Financial Times has

0:49.1

published a piece of worst-case scenario thinking out loud.

0:52.9

And he posits that a stand-down, a frozen conflict,

0:56.2

as surrender, however it is perceived,

0:59.6

would discredit NATO and the EU or the EU and that afterwards what would we have?

1:07.0

Simon entertains, Anna told, the possibility of the NATO surviving without US leadership is that realistic no no not at all

1:19.2

The I mean the European it's still truest has always been said I can't remember who coined the phrase originally that the

1:27.0

European Union is an economic giant a diplomatic dwarf and a military worm.

1:34.0

You know, even Britain, which has been led among the European countries in military

1:41.0

to Ukraine.

1:43.0

You know, it's given 14 tanks.

1:45.3

That sounds very little, but that is one-tenth

1:47.9

of the entire British tank inventory.

1:51.0

And by the way, those tanks are now largely inoperative according to the Financial

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