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2/2: TRADE: RONALD REAGAN COMPARED TO DONALD TRUMP. DAVID HEBERT, MARCUS WITCHER, CIVITAS

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 31 May 2025

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2/2: TRADE: RONALD REAGAN COMPARED TO DONALD TRUMP. DAVID HEBERT, MARCUS WITCHER, CIVITAS
1980 YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO

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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel with my colleagues, Marcus Witcher and David Hubert.

0:09.0

Marcus, I come to you right away on this matter.

0:12.0

Did Americans understand when they went to the marketplace,

0:16.0

and I believe this would have been early days of Walmart, maybe not,

0:20.0

that the protectionism led to higher

0:22.9

prices. Did they talk about it? Did it become a thing to understand the protectionism was not

0:30.0

where we're going? Yes. So when Ronald Reagan came into office in 1981, he promised the American

0:37.2

people that he would get inflation under control.

0:39.7

Now, a large amount of the credit for that, of course, goes to Paul Volker and his monetary policy, right?

0:45.1

The tightening of the money supply.

0:46.3

But Reagan was always extraordinarily supportive of Volker.

0:49.9

And Reagan and the American people, I believe in the early 1980s, agreed and understood that tariffs are simply a tax on consumers, right?

0:59.2

They raise prices.

1:01.3

Much of the tariff cost is passed on to consumers by businesses.

1:06.5

And, of course, Reagan at his core, was opposed to these types of protectionist measures, right?

1:11.7

His economic agenda was to try and, quote, unquote, get government off the backs of the people through deregulation, tax cuts, right?

1:20.0

And freer trade.

1:22.7

A lot of the sort of foreign investment that Dave's talking about, we do see a rise in foreign investment in the 1980s and the 1990s, and I think a lot of that has to do with the deregulation

1:30.9

and the lower corporate tax rates that Reagan and future administrations, including the Clinton

1:36.3

administration, right, embraced. People often forget that the 1980s till about 2001 is actually

1:41.7

a pretty solid time of low taxes, deregulation, in which Democrats

1:46.7

and Republicans generally agree, right, that we should allow market processes to function,

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