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UK. I'm John Batscher with the author Grant Newsom, writing most recently in India, the

Sunday Garden in India, but we're looking at the story of China gaining from the two wars,

the war in Gaza and the war in Ukraine.

And one of the ways to gain is Grant is identified as war fatigue. Grant, the

puzzle about war fatigue and it's evident in Savaki in Hungary and Germany

with political voices raised against the NATO against EU against Ukraine

Voices in the US Congress you've heard them all why should we continue all of this? We come now to war fatigue.

Is China gaining from war fatigue, which is natural in a political process? Good heavens, they were

tired of World War II at Operation Torch, the invasion of North Africa.

There was question at the midterms. You know, you've read the histories.

FDR had to worry about the midterms in 1942 so it's democracy. Is China not read the

same history books that we do that when we're arguing we're fighting? Do they not know that?

I think they know it actually? I think they know it, actually.

And I think they are willing to use that sort of trait of civilized people

to their advantage.

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