I'm John Batser with Ben and Ben Talibou, my colleague he's at the foundation for the

defensive democracy writing in the Wall Street Journal about the Iranian missile capabilities in the hands of the

Huthies, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the Khatab Hezbollah of Iraq, North Korea.

Benham early on when we started our conversations 150 years ago, there was much attention to the

North Korean missiles showing up repainted in parades in Tehran. Are the North Korean missiles, especially the long-range stuff? Are they derived

from North Korea? Is North Korea still the R&D of Iran?

It certainly seems like that was the case in the 80s and 90s and we have to cut ourselves some slacks or we weren't talking that long or that long ago about these weapons.

But really there has been a revolution and this is critical to note and it's why sanctions

export control economic pressure diplomatic pressure military pressure

Alone these are all necessary but not sufficient to stop the

Iranian missile program. The Iranian missile program is not just built off of

reverse engineering, it's not just built off of a list of procurement. There is a domestic Iranian

arms industry separated from the foreign patrons, the historic foreign patrons of their

weapons like in the their

their certainly was North Korea, to a lesser extent Russia and China

in the beginning of the Iran-Iraq Wars

you and I covered when we discussed my longer monograph arsenal.

Iran turned to Syria and Libya.

But now Iran is helping Syria with these capabilities.

Iran is now furnishing Russia with long-arranged

for a range-strike capabilities. So the student has become the master. You could say there is even a solid allegation and I certainly believe it because when you look at places where there have been down U.S US drones and partners of those countries

producing drones that look like US surveillance and reconnaissance drones.

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