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2/2: #EU: Strategic Autonomy: Don't want to talk about it. Judy Dempsey, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Editor-in-Chief: Strategic Europe, in Berlin.

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🗓️ 1 May 2024

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2/2: #EU: Strategic Autonomy: Don't want to talk about it. Judy Dempsey, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Editor-in-Chief: Strategic Europe, in Berlin.
https://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/92304

1898 BERLIN

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0:00.0

Have you ever felt like escaping to your own desert island?

0:04.0

Jane Gaskin did exactly that, trading in the family home to begin a new life in the

0:09.1

tropics.

0:10.1

But she soon discovers that Paradise has its secrets.

0:13.4

I'm Alice Levine, and this is the price of Paradise,

0:18.0

the island dream that ends in kidnap, corruption, and murder. Wish you were here. Follow the price of Paradise Now wherever

0:26.7

you listen to podcasts. I'm John Bachelors with Judy Dempsey of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

0:39.0

Strategic Europe, Judy is the editor-in-chief, one of her colleagues Ms. Soss has written a piece

0:45.4

very carefully about the 61 billion breaking it down into components. Some of it's

0:51.4

for weapons, much of it is for financial aid or cooperation.

0:55.0

However, the point is made, this is a first step.

1:00.0

It is not the last step. It is not adequate to win the war. Is that understood Judy or was there just a

1:06.0

great big sigh of relief and everybody headed to a restaurant?

1:10.3

Europeans are just so lazy on this issue and I had raised with my colleagues that had

1:18.8

the Biden administration not got this through and this would actually

1:26.1

thrown down the gauntlet to the Europeans and now they feel a little bit off the hook

1:30.8

and actually Americans have bailed out the Europeans in some ways.

1:38.0

This is the first thing.

1:39.0

And secondly, the Europeans have to intellectually and economically understand

1:46.8

that Ukraine is their responsibility,

1:50.4

politically and economically socially.

1:54.0

Ukraine is America's responsibility

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