I'm John Batser. This is the new John Batser show. My colleague, Michael Jan, is in Panama.

In Darian province, the southernmost province of Panama, along the Columbia border. However,

at the end of the Panama highway, where Michael is right now, near a Hacienda called

Tenoce, a hotel, the highway ends and there's 60 miles roughly of rough terrain jungle. Before

you reach Colombia's side of the Panama highway, the refugees coming north, the migrants coming

north must traverse this jungle. Michael's been inside now talking to the Embarra people who

are ancient people, indigenous to Colombia and Panama. However, we're learning that the migrants

who come through here are a find food and sustenance and shelter, somewhat, with the Embarra people

for a price. What I want to learn, Michael, is where are the migrants coming from? Who did you

meet? What nationalities? Oh, that was very interesting today. They were from all over the place.

I mean, there were many from various African countries. I sat down and talked with one guy from

Senegal, a very friendly guy, a giant guy. He'd just gotten through, literally, just gotten through

like 30 minutes ago. I sat down with him and asked him if I could look at his feet. His feet

looked good. I said, you're very strong. He said, yes, but it was very difficult. He actually

could speak some English. Actually, quite a lot of the Africans can speak English well. Most of them

cannot, but quite a lot can. For instance, one lady with an infant came in today and she could

speak English quite well. Sorry, that's the panMI. Where was she from? Where was the woman with the infant?

She told me where she was from. I'm sorry, John. It's been a long time. Yes, I understand.

Africa. Let's talk about the Senegalese. Why did he say he was in Panama having

walked the Darian gap? What is his plan? Where is he going? He said to United States, he didn't

exactly know where he's going to go, but United States is on his mind. We talked for about 10 or 15

minutes. He basically told the same story that a lot of people tell. It was very dangerous. He got

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