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2/2: #Berlin: Hard questions on the war by the EU; and soft power for peace by the #PRC. Judy Dempsey, Carnegie Europe.

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🗓️ 15 March 2023

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2/2: #Berlin: Hard questions on the war by the EU; and soft power for peace by the #PRC. Judy Dempsey, Carnegie Europe.
https://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/89183


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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batcher with Judy Demstee of the Carnegie Europe.

0:11.0

Judy is the editor-in-chief of Strategic Europe and she asks her colleagues,

0:15.0

quite frequently, hard questions. And the question we're dealing with right now

0:19.0

is not only is the conflict in Ukraine a global war, the debauchos back and forth,

0:24.0

but what next, the second year of war? And one of her correspondents very helpfully

0:29.0

made the case that the damage is being done not only to Ukraine,

0:34.0

not only to comedy in Europe, not only to the question of the U.S.

0:39.0

and the administration fighting over the politics of continuing to build

0:44.0

arms arsenals for Ukraine and for NATO, but also the people in Russia,

0:50.0

especially the young people in Russia. Judy, your colleague, Kolesnikoff,

0:54.0

Andrej Koleskhan, and Nukov speaks of the Russians losing their identity.

1:00.0

I speak to Moscow every other week and talk about it frequently.

1:04.0

The young people there are quite open and acknowledging that many of their friends

1:09.0

have fled the country. For example, to Yerevan, the capital of Armenia,

1:14.0

where many young startups have taken refuge starting up businesses in Yerevan,

1:19.0

good for Armenia, but these are Russian nationals.

1:22.0

Can they go home again, the same in Kazakhstan, at Nursal-Tan,

1:26.0

and recently we had a report, a spectacular report of 22,000 Russian immigrants,

1:32.0

many of them young women who are pregnant in Buenos Aires.

1:36.0

So what we're looking at here is the fragmenting of the Russian future.

1:40.0

Is this something that is also going to damage Europe after the war?

1:46.0

That we have, you've lost a generation of Russian speakers who looked

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