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Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Earton, the founder of 1000 Hours Outside, and I am sitting across today from someone I have been a fan of for so long.

Dr. Kurt Thompson, welcome.

Ginny, thank you so much for having me. This is an honor and a delight.

I, you know, my wife is a mother.

And I don't know, I mean, we're parents of two adult children.

And you know, I often say that if it weren't from my wife, my children would probably be dead or in jail.

And so I'm just so grateful to be talking with people of whom nobody is working harder in the world.

So thank you, thank you so much.

Hello to all the mothers listening who feel like they're drowning.

Kurt, you know, I wonder about being the

type of person that is quoted in so many books. So I have three of your books here. I have

anatomy of the soul, which is such a great title. Who even would have thought of the anatomy of the soul?

This book is about your connections between neuroscience, spiritual practice, for your life

and your relationships. I have the deepest place, which is about suffering and hope. What a book.

I have the soul of shame, retelling the stories we believe about ourselves. And I know there's also

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