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The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

1KHO 826: Play is the Antidote to Performance | Nicole Zasowski, What If It's Wonderful?

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

So many of us are preparing for disaster while life is happening right in front of us. In this beautiful conversation, Nicole Zasowski shares how years of loss, infertility, and heartbreak taught her something unexpected: joy isn't something you stumble into after everything works out. It's something you practice. We talk about why kids celebrate so naturally, why adults often lose that ability, how play helps break the grip of performance and productivity, and why noticing beauty outdoors might be one of the simplest ways to change your life. This episode is a reminder that today is worth celebrating, even if it isn't perfect. Learn more about Nicole and all she has to offer here Get your copy of What If It's Wonderful? here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:23.1

Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast.

0:25.3

My name is Ginny Urge.

0:26.3

I'm the founder of 1000 Hours Outside.

0:28.4

And we're going to be talking today about life being wonderful, enjoy and celebrating

0:33.7

and author as well as licensed licensed marriage and family therapist and mother

0:38.4

Nicole Zazowski is here welcome Nicole thanks for having me I'm so excited so I read

0:44.9

your book this is your second book what if it's wonderful and then there's also a Bible

0:48.5

study that you can do that kind of goes along with it called daring joy but what if

0:51.4

it's wonderful release your fears choose, and find the courage to celebrate.

0:56.2

You talk in this book about something that I think a lot of us feel, which is preparing for

1:02.0

the worst.

1:04.4

Especially as a mom, right?

1:06.2

Yeah.

1:06.6

It was well practiced in that.

1:08.5

Yeah.

1:09.0

Can you talk about how you say that preparing for the worst case scenario sometimes feels prudent?

1:14.7

Yeah.

1:15.6

I think we have rebranded pessimism as like, oh, I'm just a realist or I'm practical or it feels like the wise thing to do.

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