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and that it's so needed in this world. And I just love it. So I was so excited to see you're on the

list to kick off the morning here. Oh, thanks, Jack. When it comes through, like, Jack has another book.

I'm like, of course, Jack has another book. This is a unique book, Book 10. It is called the fourth option. You wrote it with M.P. Woodward. And you talked about in this book, you know, in the prolog, and I think this is a really interesting thing about you, Jack. First of all, not that many people are readers. You've got a book club. You're like, you've got to read. Be a rebel. Read. Books are the foundation upon which everything else is built. So already we've got kind of a culture that's not reading too much. But then additionally, I don't think that people pay too much attention to the authors. And since reading your books, I've read several of them. I've got right here. I'm asking my collection.

Oh, there's a couple missing there. I'm going to have to take care of that.

And I got a lot. We have all of them on Audible. But the thing is that people don't tend to pay attention to the authors too much. You talk about a book they like, but you really pay attention to the authors. These people who have influenced you throughout the years, And you see that in all of your books,

the authors, the authors. And so you talk about Tom Clancy. Not only are you like, this person

influenced me, but you know his career trajectory. You're like, he wrote this many books,

Tom Clancy, you know, and they're this series. And then after book seven, he switched and he does, you know, nonfiction.

And then after that, now he's starting to do co-writes.

Was that always part of your story where you really paid attention to the authors?

Or was that something that happened when you became an author?

I always paid attention from the fan perspective.

Because back in the 80s, the 90s, there wasn't that much you could dig up on authors.

You had to find it in an article, say, in the Times or in the Wall Street Journal or in Newsweek or in Entertainment Weekly.

If there was like a tiny little thing that someone's book was being adapted and mentioned something about the author or whatever else or you just paid attention by the books that were coming out which is

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