We have had so many guests on this show, talk about how powerful the outdoors can be for kids, especially kids with ADHD or different ways of learning and processing the world. And if you are raising a child with ADHD dyslexia, a language disorder, or really any kind of learning difference, I want to share a podcast that I think you'll really appreciate. It's called Everyone Gets a Juice Box. It's parents just being honest with each other in a really safe, welcoming space about the highs and lows of raising neurodivergent kids. And what I love about it is is how real it is. There was one story about a mom who had this big career, running a major podcast division, and she realized she hadn't been home to see her daughter before bed for weeks. And at the same time, she was starting to notice these little moments, like her daughter freezing up during a simple preschool performance and just having that gut feeling like

something's different here and then all the doubt that comes with that like other people saying she

seems fine well you're sitting here thinking but i'm her parent and i know her this mom eventually

stepped back in and reconnected and created little games together just to help her daughter communicate

better it's such a good reminder that connection doesn't have to be complicated. It just has to be intentional. So if that interests you, go check it out. To listen, search for Everyone Gets a Juice Box. In your podcast app, that's Everyone Gets a Juice Box. Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Earch. I'm the founder of 100 hours outside. And I got a book that I loved. And I love. I loved and I love. It is called Every Moment Holy. This is actually a new version is not the right word. A new edition. This is for like graduating kids, you know, kids that are, it's called rites of passage. So, you know, when you're in these transition periods of life, also I was like, this is great for myself. Anyways, I thought, gosh, you know, I, I've never read anything like this. It's, it's these pre-written kind of prayers to help guide you through these different moments in life.

And I didn't really know what I was going to think about it. And I love it. I'm like, these are going to be my new go-to gifts for people. There's all sorts of different editions. I'm probably saying it wrong. Volumes, that's the word, right? All sorts of different volumes of this for different points in your life. And then I went down the rabbit hole of the author

who is Douglas Kane McKelvey, who's here with us today, and he's got kids books too. So there's one called

the Angel New Papa and the Dog. I've got, that's like a little novel. And then also this is a

kid's book, The Wishes of the Fish King, Douglas, welcome.

Thank you so much, Jenny.

Your enthusiasm is so encouraging.

I just loved it.

I loved it.

What a brilliant way to be able to take the human experience.

What are the things that are going on in a kid's mind, in a parent's mind, you know, in these sort of really big transition moments in life, like graduation, and you was like you picked every single thing, like, oh, I might be worried about this, I might be concerned that I lost my job. You know, what about my interview that's coming up? I'm having a hard time studying for the test. I'm a little bit addicted to my gaming device. It's like all of it. You include in this book. So I would love, I would love if you give a little bit of your backstory because I think this is a really important piece too.

These books didn't come out until you were closer to 50. Right. And you were kind of feeling like

what the heck. You know, like in that spot where, you know, you like hit these ages and you're like, I thought I'd be further along in my life. And you're like, you know, stuff's like it's kind of just inching along and then these have just exploded. Can you talk about that little bit of backstory there, sort of with the lens of giving someone hope

if they also feel like maybe they're kind of plotting along a little bit?

Sure. Yeah, there's an awful lot that I could say about all of that.

So I'll try to chart a shorter trail through that briar patch. In my mid-20s, I became really, well, I became a fan of the writings of

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the Russian Soviet dissident, right, who had spent time in the

gulag, in the prison camps, because he had made a derogatory comment about Stalin, who was in

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