1KHO 723: Uncertainty Has So Much to Teach Us | Anne-Laure Le Cunff, Tiny Experiments

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.8 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Anne-Laure Le Cunff—founder of Ness Labs and author of Tiny Experiments—joins Ginny Yurich to offer a freeing alternative to the ladder-climbing, goal-obsessed script so many of us are living by. Drawing from her own pivot from Google to startups to neuroscience, she explains why uncertainty isn’t a problem to solve—it’s a place where you can learn who you actually are, one tiny experiment at a time. This conversation is super practical and it's hopeful—especially for parents raising kids in a world that worships productivity. If you’ve been pushing hard, feeling behind, or quietly wondering if you’re building the wrong life, this episode will help you trade pressure for curiosity—and make room for more play, presence, and real progress. Get your copy of Tiny Experiments here Learn about Anne-Laure and all she has to offer here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	When was the last time you had space to feel?
0:04.0	With the National Trust, you might just find life standing still under towering trees.
0:10.0	Maybe you'll find connection among the stories of the past,
0:15.0	or a moment to disconnect from it all on a mountainside.
0:20.0	Whatever you're feeling, wherever you are, with the
0:23.0	National Trust, you can make space to feel. Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is
0:33.4	Ginny Urge, I'm the founder of 1,000 Hours Outside. And I have the founder of Ness Labs here today.
0:39.8	And Laura LeCompf, welcome. Thanks so much for having me. So I read your book called Tiny Experiments
0:46.9	and it's about how to live freely in a goal-obsessed world, which that's what this is, very goal-obsessed.
0:55.4	And you talk about your story of quitting at Google.
1:00.0	You had the dream job, you're working up the ladder, they're flying you all over the place.
1:04.6	Can you talk about that?
1:06.4	So I, as you said, I had what I thought was my dream job at the time working with really smart
1:11.6	people on really cool projects and I was really excited to be there and have that opportunity.
1:18.6	As a result, however, I said yes to absolutely everything.
1:24.6	Part of me thought that someone might discover that I did not belong there among all of these smart people and I was so scared that you know that I would not be able to perform at the level I was supposed to at a company like that that I would try to go over and beyond with every single project and take on even more
1:47.6	than what I was supposed to do. This is obviously not sustainable, and I wish I could tell you that
1:54.4	I realize that on my own, but as it is often the case, it takes a little bit of an external lifequake for us to realize that our priorities are out of whack.
2:05.9	And in my case, it was a health scare.
2:08.6	So I was getting ready to go to work, brushing my teeth in front of the mirror, and I noticed that my entire arm had turned purple.
2:18.3	So I, yeah, I went to the Google Infirmary because we had that.
2:25.2	And the nurse had one look at it and said, you need to go to the hospital straight away.
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