Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Urge and the founder of 1000 Hours Outside. And one of my favorite guests is back today for a second time. Jessica, Joelle, Alexander, welcome. Thank you so much for having me. So we talked last time about your book. Okay, it's raising kids the Danish way. No. Yeah, so it's the Danish way of parenting. Yes. Okay. I watch that. The. The Danish way of parenting. The Danish way of parenting. And you have a new book that's out, but not available everywhere yet. And we're going to be talking about that at the beginning of 2026. But can you tell people about the new book that came out as well? Yeah. So it's the Danish way every day. And yeah, that will be out in the US in January okay so I I love that

book we had so many incredible conversations about the first one then you're going to be

coming on to talk about the second one just about how parents you know they they parent

differently in different places and you were able to see that firsthand it's like one of the

things I bring up a lot is how the fairy tales are not the same.

You know, the fairy tales are not always these happy endings.

And so we talked about all of these different eye-opening parenting practices that you might

not realize exist and they can inform the way that you parent if you live in a different place.

So phenomenal book, highly recommend.

But what you have out right now is incredible. It's

incredible. I, you know, and I was a little skeptical, I have to be honest, because these are

conversation cards with kids dealing with technology. And that could really go south. I mean,

they could be cheesy. We've got five kids, a bunch of them are teenagers,

and they love dinner table questions. They're constantly asking for dinner table questions.

I run out of ideas. You know, I'm constantly searching for ideas. And so, you know, the true test is,

is a 12-year-old or 14-year-old interested in these topics? And the answer is emphatically yes. So it's called

the essential conversation cards for life online, raising digital citizens. We're going to be talking

about these cards during this conversation. But can you give a little background about your

journey to making these? Yes. So, I mean, I've been working in parenting for about 20 years now. And I've, you know, I've been very much focused on the Danish angle.

Always voted as the happiest country. My husband is Danish. You know, I wrote this book. Actually, books, I should say. But then as my, as my daughter was getting to the age of, you know phone age let's say yeah um i felt really

unprepared and um she was the last person she was the last person in her class to have a phone

and you know i knew that i was missing like i mean i knew at a certain point I couldn't put it off anymore.

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