1KHO 597: Legacy is What We Set in Motion | David Green and Bill High, Hobby Lobby

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Parenting, Kids & Family

4.9 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

What if retirement isn’t the goal of a good life—but a detour from your purpose? In this rich, countercultural conversation, Hobby Lobby founder David Green and legacy expert Bill High challenge the empty-nest, me-first script and offer a generational vision families can actually live. They unpack why purpose doesn’t expire at 65, how multi-generation storytelling keeps a family’s “chief storytellers” (grandparents!) at the center, and why mission, vision, and values—written down and rehearsed—beat hustle and highlight reels. You’ll hear surprising practices from the Green family (including an annual family celebration, monthly giving meetings, and a conflict-resolution policy), a freeing definition of legacy as what you set in motion, and a simple refrain that reshapes wealth and work: earn, don’t inherit; steward, don’t own. For parents, teens, and grandparents alike, this episode is a practical field guide to building roots that outlast you—without losing joy in the day-to-day. Expect vivid stories (44-state camping in a pop-up, backyard tunnel cities, and taking principled risks), a reframe of “success” that prioritizes relationships over accumulation, and small moves with compounding power: draft a one-page family creed, name the ten stories your kids must know, protect a weekly Sabbath-style family meeting, and trade child-centered schedules for family-centered rhythms. Listen in, then ask: What one degree change could I set in motion today that my great-grandchildren will feel? Get your copy of The Legacy Life here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Yurch. I'm the founder of 100
0:04.4	Hours Outside. And I'm so excited about two of our guests today, David Green and Bill High.
0:10.2	They have a new book coming out called The Legacy Life. David Green is the founder and CEO of Hobby Lobby.
0:15.6	Welcome to you both. Yeah. Thank you. So glad to be on.
0:19.6	So we have a new Hobby Lobby that's coming to Michigan near us in Howell,
0:24.2	and I would like you to know that I really love the cross-stitch kits. Those are some of my favorite
0:28.7	things to get at Hobby Lobby because doing things with your hands, it's so good for your brain,
0:33.9	and you have the best cross-stitch kits around. So we're excited about that new one coming to Howell, Howell, Michigan.
0:39.9	This book is really a challenging book.
0:42.3	It's called A Legacy Life.
0:43.6	And we are in the stage of parenting where we've got teenagers and some younger kids.
0:48.5	And so you really start to think about what is your role,
0:50.9	especially as they're transitioning out of the home or they're getting to the
0:54.4	end of high school. So there's a lot of thought-provoking topics in this book. I would love to
0:59.8	kick it off with retirement. It does feel like the whole of society is focused on retirement.
1:06.2	It's focused on not working. It's focused on getting to this spot in life where you spend your days,
1:11.4	you spend your days focused on yourself. The kids are kind of up and out. They leave the nest.
1:17.0	And you said, David, I would rather become a greeter at Hobby Lobby than to be a person that's,
1:24.3	you know, finding seashells on the beach. Can you talk, I mean, that's a very
1:28.9	different worldview than most of the culture has. Can you talk about why you wouldn't want to
1:37.0	retire? Well, I think, first, I think it's nice for someone to have a sport or something they want
1:43.9	to do. I don't do a lot of that stuff, and maybe it's nice for someone to have a sport or something they want to do. I don't do a lot of that stuff,
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