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at uk slash prime okay Joel I took 15 pages of notes so are you ready right can we just jump in

definitely all right here we go welcome to the 1 Hours Outside podcast. My name is Ginny Urge. I'm the founder of 1,000 Hours outside. And I'm so excited because Dr. Joel Gator Worse is back. And we're going to be talking about vaccines. Here we go. Welcome. Thank you for having me back on it's always a pleasure so i want you to start us

off by giving a little bit of background you write a book about vaccines which is obviously a very

controversial topic we're going to be talking about a lot of those types of things today we've talked

about it a little bit on the show i've got a little bit of my own history there with my own kids

but this book is fantastic i have 15 pages of notes.

You're the person to write the book because you're a board certified pediatrician. You

worked with kids for a very long time. You're also an master's degree in epidemiology.

So can you give us a little bit of your background in how that's helped you become the right

person to write a book about vaccines? Yeah. I'm going back, I guess, a little bit. You know, I've been on, I mean, I've been on my journey. I'm pediatrician, did all the regular stuff. I think it all really started with meeting my wife in residency, and she's very holistic minded. So that opened up my eyes to a little bit of a different world. And certainly as I went through practice and then opened out my own integrative practice, I started having more and more questions from parents about vaccines. And unfortunately, the conversation was just so censored. It wasn't something that I really ever felt very comfortable talking about on social media or anywhere else. I mean, you know, we've talked a little bit in the past. I've been on many shows, but I never really talked about it. I mean, maybe a little bit, but it was just so tough. And I got so frustrated with that over the years. And certainly when COVID happened, I think that opened up my eyes and a lot of people's eyes to a need to talk about everything and to get rid of this ridiculous censorship on a word like vaccines. It's crazy. We're giving these to our kids. And we should be able to talk about it. And I'm not against anything. I feel like people should be able to make their own decisions, make the decisions that are best for them. We should be able to talk about it and help people to make the decision that's right for their family. In my office, we get vaccines. You know, we have them. We have people that do the regular schedule. We have some people that go on a slow schedule. Some people don't do them. And I just feel like we shouldn't force people to do anything. And they should be able to make up their mind based on the best information that we have. Just like everything else in medicine, that's the way the book is. That's the way that I talk about things. And that really led me to write this because I feel like everything in vaccines is so one-sided, so polarized. A lot of it was really censored, as we mentioned. And I feel like I'm in a unique position because I get to see and talk to parents all the time that have some hesitancy, some concerns. That's why they come to the office. That's why they messaged me on social media. And I've been talking about this for years, but just not anywhere except in the office. And that's not right. People have these questions. And I wanted to get the information out there and take people on my journey of reading about this and learning about it. And I also wanted to learn more about vaccines because I get so many questions about it.

Yeah.

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