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The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

1KHO 521: Nature is an Essential Part of Childhood | Linda McGurk, Rain or Shine Mamma

The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Ginny Yurich

Parenting, Kids & Family

4.91.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

What if we've misunderstood what children really need? In this powerful fourth appearance, Linda McGurk—Swedish-American journalist and bestselling author of There’s No Such Thing As Bad Weather and The Open-Air Life—joins Ginny Yurich to remind us of a fundamental truth: nature is not a luxury or a seasonal activity—it is essential to childhood itself. Drawing from her Scandinavian upbringing and years of raising kids in both the U.S. and Sweden, Linda shares why outdoor play in all weather builds resilience, grit, and lifelong joy. From toddlers in rain puddles to teens hiking in storms, she makes a compelling case that getting outside every day isn't just nice—it's necessary. Together, Ginny and Linda dive into cultural contrasts, educational pressures, and why families in the U.S. often feel isolated in their efforts to raise nature-connected kids. They talk about building small communities of outdoor families, advocating for longer recess, and modeling an adventurous spirit—especially as mothers. Whether you're overwhelmed by busy schedules, worried about bad weather, or unsure how to begin, this episode offers simple shifts with lifelong impact. You'll walk away inspired to embrace discomfort, chase puddles, and pass down the quiet wisdom of a childhood spent outdoors. 📚 There’s No Such Thing As Bad Weather → https://amzn.to/3RrAeQo 📚 The Open-Air Life → https://amzn.to/3Rp3z7c 🌿 Learn more about Linda → https://rainorshinemamma.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Oh, that's my prime delivery.

0:01.6

What, already?

0:02.7

Only one thing can match the buzz of Prime's fast delivery.

0:06.2

And that's the buzz of Prime's entertainment.

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Heads of state, that new action comedy with Idris Elber as the Prime Minister,

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John Sina as the president, and Prianka Chopra Jonas,

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as their only hope.

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899 a month, join now. Content includes limited ads, subscription or to our news. For more information,

0:28.2

go to amazon.com.com. Welcome to the 1000 Hours Outside Podcast. One of your favorite guest is back.

0:34.2

Linda Okesan McGurk. Rain or Shine, Mama. Welcome. Thank you, Jenny. It's such an honor to be back. Linda Okeson-Megerk, rain or shine, mama. Welcome. Thank you, Jenny. It's such an honor to be back. Thank you. Your books have changed my life. They are so fantastic. I was definitely an endure winter person. Like, when is it going to be over? And also, honestly, even in the summers where you're like, oh, all these bugs.

0:55.4

I was kind of like that.

0:56.4

I was always just grumpily marching my way through.

1:00.2

And I have read your books and they have changed my life.

1:02.5

You've been on our podcast several times.

1:05.2

Really one of the only ones consistently talking to parents, to people, to kids about like, hey, you can go

1:12.5

outside in whatever weather.

1:15.0

Yeah, yeah, it's become sort of my specialty niche.

1:19.6

And yeah, and thanks again.

1:20.6

I think it's my fourth time on the podcast now.

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