Pam is back!!!! She's back!!!!! Pam Lobley is a beloved guest on the 1000 Hours Outside Podcast. Her episode called "We've Forgotten How to Have an Ordinary Time" (episode #60) has been a most-listened-to episode for months in the running. In our February Book Club Pam dives into so many pertinent topics. We explore the reasons why motherhood has ramped up over the last few decades, attributing it mainly to the idea that we want to control everything and avoid taking risks. Pam points out that this fear only feeds itself, making it difficult for mothers to trust that there's another way. The discussion then moves to the teenage years, which Pam describes as being pretty crazy in terms of pace. Pam also touches on the topic of being counterculture without feeling ashamed or afraid. She acknowledges that being a mother is to have self-doubt, but stresses the need to remember that everyone is struggling in their own way. Throughout the podcast, Pam shares her honest opinions and encourages the audience to cultivate a community on purpose, which takes a lot of energy but is worth it. She also gives a shout-out to all the moms of boys who don't love sports and discusses the challenges of constantly having to deal with unexpected situations. Finally, Pam advises mothers to invest when they have the chance, as they will have their adult child for much longer than they had their young child. Pam is heartwarming, per usual. This episode is a must-listen for any mother looking to gain some insight and perspective on the joys and challenges of motherhood. Listen to Episode #60 Here >> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-1000-hours-outside-podcast/id1448210728?i=1000569882692 Get your copy of "Why Can't We Just Play?" here >> https://amzn.to/3ZMmdU1 It would make a great Mother's Day or Baby Shower gift. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices