I consider myself to be pretty smart and pretty savvy and pretty aware and I just got blindsided.

Never, ever, ever download anything that anybody sends you from an outside store.

Really think about internet security because our lives are online now.

Hello and welcome to the best case worst case. This is Jim Clemente, Retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today is.

Hi everybody, it's francey hakes, former state and federal prosecutor. Jim, we're back together, even though we're not actually together.

Yeah, actually, aren't you like at your home back in.

Let's yes, I am back at XG South or XG East. I don't know maybe XG Southeast.

Southeast.

That's right. And so I'm back on the East Coast where it's humid. I had a brief trip to Montana, Jim.

You wouldn't have liked it because it was very cold. I liked it because my hair has never looked better.

Really interesting. No frizz there. And I got right back to Atlanta and boom, I'm like a brillo pad again.

So frozen francey hair is what you like. So we know, but let's not digress too far.

No, we have very special guests with us today.

Name is Bill. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.

How you doing, Bill? Listen to our listeners. We are doing something a little different today.

Bill has just been the targeted victim of a crime. And we want to talk about it.

He wants to get the word out to the world so that they're aware that this is going on.

And hopefully this will prevent anyone in our listenership or in their immediate circle of family and friends from following victims as well.

So Jim, before we get to Bill in his story, I mean, I think this is a great idea for our listeners.

And you and I have spent our careers fighting for victims. I mean, that's what we've done.

We've had a few people on who've talked about victimization in this podcast over the last Jim.

It's been now three and a half years, believe it or not.

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