I think culture is pushing us toward burnout every day if we allow it to.

The most important thing we can take an audit of is how am I using my time?

Hey, everyone, come on in here.

In fact, just lay down on our pink couch today because we...

Well, there's two people on it.

There's a little spot right there.

We'll make some space on the program today. We are talking about exhaustion if you're tired.

And what is the point of burnout? Our guest today says that a lot of our exhaustion comes from trying to control outcomes,

managing everyone else's emotions, and ignoring what's happening inside our own soul.

Ouch, do you feel it already?

Dr. Henry Cloud is joining us to keep us from getting to that point and to help if we are already there.

Dr. Cloud, welcome.

We're always so glad to have you with us.

Clinical psychologist, of course, a New York Times best-selling author.

I love that you take all that

and you combine it with the Word of God, you know the word.

And you're also just an all-round nice, wise man.

So we love having you hear well.

We like, because you're nice.

So we're talking about the truth about burnout today.

Yeah.

You know, one of the big truths is that people really have to understand.

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