#199: Mindhunter, Victims and Serial Killers with Professor John White

Real Crime Profile

Real Crime Profile / Wondery

True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.2 • 10.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2019

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Laura Richards, Jim Clemente and Lisa Zambetti interview Professor John White, professor of psychology at Stockton University, Galloway, New Jersey who specialises in forensic neuropsychology.

We discuss Mindhunter (Season 1) including the portrayal of serial killer Jerome Brudos, his victims including his wife Darcie Brudos, Linda Slawson, Jan Whitney, Karen Sprinker and Linda Salee and the link with coercive control.

Professor John White is a former police investigator who now treats sex offenders, an author and curator of the serial murder database. You won't want to miss this!

#HerNameWasDarcieBrudos

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#HerNameWasLindaSalee

#CoerciveControl

#Mindhunter

Prof John White's book: 'In Pursuit of a Serial Killer: The Archetype Case'

https://www.amazon.com/Pursuit-Serial-Killer-Archetype-Case/dp/1607975807

Killer Profile

http://crimedocumentary.com/killer-profile-season-1-2013/

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0:00.0	Hey, Prime Members, you can listen to Real Crime Profile ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the app today.
0:07.0	Maybe the reason you are so interested in all this is because we like to be in control of things that are inevitable anyway.
0:18.0	Like death is inevitable. We don't want other people making that choice for us, do we?
0:25.0	Especially some random stranger. I say especially, but we don't want our loved ones to either.
0:30.0	But they are usually the ones that do it.
0:32.0	So, but things are inevitable, just like the seasons are inevitable.
0:38.0	My fictionalized person's friend kept saying, what does coming?
0:43.0	Well, of course, when there is coming, it's inevitable. Death is inevitable, but we want control over it.
0:50.0	Right?
0:56.0	You are to pictures of his victims in select clothing because that was part of his fantasy.
1:10.0	He's probably living in a fantasy by his mother and for him, he has sexualized that.
1:16.0	So, he would dress them up in women with certain clothing that he wanted that would make him feel better about himself.
1:24.0	And perhaps he would be harping him back to a time when life was safer for him.
1:28.0	So, Jerry, if you stand back as a scientist and you look at his behavior, Jerry was exploring his sexual interest in him and how he could act out.
1:38.0	Take trophies, act with impunity. He was doing things he had been fantasizing about for a very long time.
1:46.0	Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer producer of CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today is...
1:55.0	Laura Richards, Criminal Behavioral Analyst, former New Scotland Yard and founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.
2:02.0	And I'm Lisa Zambetti, I am the casting director for CBS's Criminal Minds. And I have a real interest in Real Crime and these minds that solve those crimes.
2:10.0	Well, today we have a very special guest and friend of ours.
2:15.0	Hello, I'm John White. I'm a former Dallas Police Sergeant and a presently I'm a professor of psychology at Stockton University just outside of Lank City.
2:28.0	And I'm also a forensic psychologist.
2:31.0	It's awesome. Thank you for joining us, John. It's really good to see you.
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