Hey, welcome to Job with Julie.

I'm Julie Slattery, and we are not in Colorado Springs today. We are in... The better state. We're in the land. Yeah. And people don't know what the land is. Ohio, Cleveland. Doesn't everyone know what the land is? They should after, you know, the Cavs and the NBA finals and everything. We're in Ohio and we're happy about it. I'm happy about it. I'm happy when Julie is in town.

This is where you live, Hannah.

I know.

This is where I grew up. And we are recording from Moody Studios, WCRF, which is our favorite radio station in the entire world. In the world. And we brought our own Java into the studio. Well, you kind of did, but I drink all mine already. Yours is gone, really? I'm a rapid coffee drinker. I need to get another dose. We have a super special guest today. Sanj Kaurah, and he's so funny because he's like, I'm Irish. And it's like, I'm like, really? It's like, how gullible do I have to be? You're not Irish, are you saying? No, no. Honor to be on your show, Julie and Hannah. Thank you so much. I'm from India. Born in India. Okay. Yes. And how'd you get over here? Well, my parents immigrated from India when I was about a year old to Canada, of all places. Ottawa, Canada is where I grew up all the way up to high school. Great. I didn't know that.

Yeah. Canada. That's cool. Yeah. So, Sanj works with Robbie Zacharias's ministry. And I don't even know what it's called. What is the official name? RZIM. Yeah. Robbie Zacharias International Ministries. Look at that. You got it. Yeah. Lucky guess. And some of our listeners might be really familiar with Ravi, and some of our listeners are like never heard of him. Ravi is perhaps one of the most gifted apologists in the world. Yes, I would say that. Yeah. Yeah. And so some people are like, well, what's an apologist?

Does that mean he knows how to say, I'm sorry really well?

No, you know, it's really from the verse, First Peter 315, which is in layman's terms,

it is Peter's saying that you should be able to give a defense and give the hope that is within you,

which is the word Apologia, which means in the Greek a defense of your faith. And then it goes on to say, but do it with kindness and gentleness.

So it's how you answer and how you defend and how you have dialogue with your faith is

what Peter is saying.

And so that's what our ministry does, yes.

Which is so important.

I know there are some Christians that walk by faith and they say, I trust in God. I know he's real than me. I have had experiences with the Lord, but they don't know how to articulate to somebody that they might meet. This is the evidence behind what I believe. And this is why Christianity is not a blind faith, but a faith that engages the mind.

Yes, yeah.

And I think earlier we were talking about apologetics and giving an answer is not a gift.

You have to learn, you have to practice, you have to read, you have to study, whether it's about a certain worldview or a certain subject, whether it's science, evolution, sexuality, which we're going to probably get into.

It's your actual gift is how you give that answer.

Because you can really offend, you can end up getting in a debate, which you can. your actual gift is how you give that answer.

Because you can really offend.

You can end up getting in a debate, which I don't like to do.

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