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#197: The Keepers: Unfinished Business

Real Crime Profile

Real Crime Profile / Wondery

True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.210.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2019

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Laura Richards, Jim Clemente and Lisa Zambetti revisit the murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik in Baltimore in 1969 which was featured in the documentary "The Keepers" with Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters, Gemma's co-host of the 'Out of the Shadows' podcast. We discuss what has happened since The Keepers and other potentially linked offences

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0:00.0

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0:07.0

What has the reaction been, Jamma, since you released this series from people?

0:11.0

It's been overwhelming. It's surreal. We have been on the receiving end of many more stories of abuse

0:20.0

and jeans as representative of many of those. Right now we have probably almost a hundred people

0:29.0

who have come forward that claim to have been abused by Mascul and we, you know...

0:37.0

Not just Mascul, right? The implication is that others aren't the police department.

0:42.0

Yes, Doctor.

0:43.0

Yeah.

0:52.0

I was raised Catholic. I had a positive experience in the Catholic Church.

0:55.0

So when I began making this, it was very important to me that it not be an anti-Catholic film.

1:01.0

And I think my eyes, the blinders have been ripped off in a lot of ways on how the Catholic church,

1:08.0

and especially the archdiocese of Baltimore, operates, and I think they have failed children and adults repeatedly throughout their history.

1:15.0

But I also think it's important, and I hope to take away from the keepers. This isn't just a Catholic church problem.

1:22.0

This is also a problem of many other institutions, including governmental and state institutions,

1:28.0

that failed these people in Baltimore repeatedly over the years.

1:32.0

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Climetti, former New York City prosecutor,

1:37.0

tired FBI profiler, and writer-producer for CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today is...

1:43.0

For Richard's Criminal Behavioral Analysts Form, and you Scotland Yard,

1:46.0

I'm founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.

1:49.0

And I am Lisa Zambetti, casting director for CBS's Criminal Minds.

1:54.0

Well, Laura and Lisa, aren't we really excited?

1:58.0

We are so excited!

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