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#196 - Is Cancel Culture Toxic?

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🗓️ 12 November 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

You know the drill. Someone does, or says, something offensive. A public backlash -- typically on Twitter -- ensues. Then come the calls to "cancel" that person, brand, or institution. That usually means the loss of cultural cache, political clout, and often a job or career. Some see "cancelling" as a modern-day means of holding people to account, while others express concerns about digital mobs policing speech. So, we ask: Is cancel culture toxic?  Arguing in favor of the motion is Kmele Foster of FreeThink with chess grandmaster and political activist Garry Kasparov. Arguing against the motion is Erich Hatala Matthes of Wellesley College with Karen Attiah of the Washington Post. Emmy award-winning journalist John Donvan moderates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's a controversial form of ostracism, a tool in bringing down those with power, cancelling.

0:09.7

Some see it as accountability and a method of calling attention to long-standing injustice.

0:14.5

They say it's always been around, others see a new, very-lin form of mob justice, which

0:19.6

jeopardizes a person's safety and risks indefinite alienation.

0:24.0

Either way, in this modern era, social media has a decidedly amplifying effect.

0:29.8

Against that background, we debate for and against this motion.

0:33.6

Cancel culture is toxic.

0:36.8

Hi, everybody.

0:38.0

And yes, we are talking about lately what's being called cancel culture, the perception

0:43.3

at least and possibly the reality that there has been an outbreak of people being punished

0:48.8

for the ideas they expressed through a process of public shaming that has seemed to be silencing

0:53.8

them to getting them ejected from positions of prominence, even to ending their careers.

0:59.6

Where is much disagreement on whether cancel culture is even real or exaggerated, or whether

1:04.8

it's really something new, and whether it is toxic to public discourse or a necessary

1:10.4

corrective to have these callouts?

1:12.9

Cancel culture on trial.

1:14.5

That's our debate.

1:15.5

I'm John Donovan, and this is Intelligence Squared.

1:18.7

All right, everybody.

1:21.4

Now you have a duty to perform here in this program, and that is to act as the judge of

1:25.8

the debate.

1:26.8

And one of you, what we would like you to do is to tell us which side you feel argued

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